Comments on: Design Schools: Please Start Teaching Design Again http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/ Adaptive Path Blog Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:40:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Analysis of Article | blogging to be a teacher http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-177001 Analysis of Article | blogging to be a teacher Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:47:04 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-177001 [...] Design Schools:  Please Start Teaching Design Again http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/ [...] […] Design Schools:  Please Start Teaching Design Again http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/ […]

]]> By: Interesting UX/UCD Reads for the Week at Mobimeet http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-176033 Interesting UX/UCD Reads for the Week at Mobimeet Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:50:39 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-176033 [...] Design Schools: Please Start Teaching Design Again by Dan Saffer …I was taught that design has three components: thinking, making, and doing. (Doing is the synthesis, presentation, and evaluation of a design; the bridge between thinking and making.) If all design schools are teaching is the thinking, well, they are missing the other two thirds of the equation. They have abandoned craft for craze. Thinking without the making and doing is almost useless in the job market, unless you want to work at Accenture or some other big consulting firm. It probably won’t help you get a job as a designer in a studio environment. You’d be better off getting a degree in Humanities; at least you would be well-rounded… [read…] [...] […] Design Schools: Please Start Teaching Design Again by Dan Saffer …I was taught that design has three components: thinking, making, and doing. (Doing is the synthesis, presentation, and evaluation of a design; the bridge between thinking and making.) If all design schools are teaching is the thinking, well, they are missing the other two thirds of the equation. They have abandoned craft for craze. Thinking without the making and doing is almost useless in the job market, unless you want to work at Accenture or some other big consulting firm. It probably won’t help you get a job as a designer in a studio environment. You’d be better off getting a degree in Humanities; at least you would be well-rounded… [read…] […]

]]> By: JW Kim http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-166513 JW Kim Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:49:36 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-166513 Get it through your thick skull, when Nussbaum says design thinking, it's just a name for a methodology for multi-disciplinary teams to work through where making and doing is essential -- it could be design doing for all I care. You guys have more common than you think, it's just that I think you already made up your mind about him, therefore anything you read reinforces your bias. The whole goal of 'dschools'--design institutes, is to teach non-designers about design thinking, not to produce MBA's or MS's to be designers, but help them to understand and value what designers bring to the table and ultimately elevate the value of designers so that folks like you get paid more. i.e. not just make things pretty, but innovate through design. Get it through your thick skull, when Nussbaum says design thinking, it’s just a name for a methodology for multi-disciplinary teams to work through where making and doing is essential — it could be design doing for all I care. You guys have more common than you think, it’s just that I think you already made up your mind about him, therefore anything you read reinforces your bias. The whole goal of ‘dschools’–design institutes, is to teach non-designers about design thinking, not to produce MBA’s or MS’s to be designers, but help them to understand and value what designers bring to the table and ultimately elevate the value of designers so that folks like you get paid more. i.e. not just make things pretty, but innovate through design.

]]> By: “rarified vocational air” « Second Verse http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-150066 “rarified vocational air” « Second Verse Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:02:52 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-150066 [...] Dan and I sit next to one another at AP, taking in huge gaping mouthfulls of that rarified air Khoi mentioned with every breath. We do this because we’re happy to be here, and thankful to be surrounded by talented, dedicated and independent thinkers. Dan wants to fill this city of ours with amazing designers, and so he chafes when people like Bruce Nussbaum start saying things that, to Dan’s ear, tell people that the thinking part of design is more important than the doing. He gets pissed when he realizes that the curriculum of the design schools are starting to deemphasize the actual design work. [...] […] Dan and I sit next to one another at AP, taking in huge gaping mouthfulls of that rarified air Khoi mentioned with every breath. We do this because we’re happy to be here, and thankful to be surrounded by talented, dedicated and independent thinkers. Dan wants to fill this city of ours with amazing designers, and so he chafes when people like Bruce Nussbaum start saying things that, to Dan’s ear, tell people that the thinking part of design is more important than the doing. He gets pissed when he realizes that the curriculum of the design schools are starting to deemphasize the actual design work. […]

]]> By: What is design education? at SOUP DU JOUR http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-140961 What is design education? at SOUP DU JOUR Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:42:50 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-140961 [...] or tedious depending on how you look at it, debatehere about the nature of design education. If you make it to Bruce Nussbaums comments they make [...] […] or tedious depending on how you look at it, debatehere about the nature of design education. If you make it to Bruce Nussbaums comments they make […]

]]> By: Design Schools, « Thsdesigns’s Weblog http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-132087 Design Schools, « Thsdesigns’s Weblog Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:59:16 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-132087 [...] I got this article from google, www.adaptivepath.com/blog/?p=334&akst_action=share-this [...] […] I got this article from google, http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/?p=334&akst_action=share-this […]

]]> By: robert http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-82079 robert Sun, 20 May 2007 12:23:49 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-82079 As an employer of designers, i agree with Dan 100%. There needs to be a gap between theory and practicality. A creative designer will still be able to manifest his creativity even as he learns the more 'techical side' of being a designer. 2 reasons. to get started in the real world, chances are you will not be too involved with conceptualization but rather the more basic or technical tasks. As one gets a better understanding of how the system works and as opportunity arises in the office, the chance to do more "design thinking " steps into play. the second reason is that with any art there needs discipline. you can not design if you can't sell it to your peers,clients,etc. At best someone may interpret your thoughts as they communicate your idea at a technical level. GOOD designers know how to express their creative thinking to the non-creative ones. good design doesn-t stop at the big picture, good design lies in the details! As an employer of designers, i agree with Dan 100%. There needs to be a gap between theory and practicality. A creative designer will still be able to manifest his creativity even as he learns the more ‘techical side’ of being a designer. 2 reasons.
to get started in the real world, chances are you will not be too involved with conceptualization but rather the more basic or technical tasks. As one gets a better understanding of how the system works and as opportunity arises in the office, the chance to do more “design thinking ” steps into play. the second reason is that with any art there needs discipline. you can not design if you can’t sell it to your peers,clients,etc. At best someone may interpret your thoughts as they communicate your idea at a technical level.
GOOD designers know how to express their creative thinking to the non-creative ones. good design doesn-t stop at the big picture, good design lies in the details!

]]> By: eray http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-81471 eray Fri, 18 May 2007 08:09:06 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-81471 you cant find those designers unless you start to teach them "design thinking". there are thousands of designers out there creating objects and messeges that are polluting physical and social enviroment. its time for designers to "think" before fetishizing the objects and messeges they create in a highly complex world. you cant find those designers unless you start to teach them “design thinking”. there are thousands of designers out there creating objects and messeges that are polluting physical and social enviroment. its time for designers to “think” before fetishizing the objects and messeges they create in a highly complex world.

]]> By: Mark Schraad http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-79039 Mark Schraad Wed, 09 May 2007 15:17:28 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-79039 Came to this via the FrogMind article... As an undergaduate... fundamentals, then application makes sense to me. As a graduate student, those are still important, but design thinking tools are so very powerful, they need to be the emphasis. I think it won't be too long before "design thinking" is a standard class in MBA programs (thanks in part to Rottman). Came to this via the FrogMind article…

As an undergaduate… fundamentals, then application makes sense to me. As a graduate student, those are still important, but design thinking tools are so very powerful, they need to be the emphasis. I think it won’t be too long before “design thinking” is a standard class in MBA programs (thanks in part to Rottman).

]]> By: designswarm thoughts » Blog Archive » About design schools and worldly expectations http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-78105 designswarm thoughts » Blog Archive » About design schools and worldly expectations Sat, 05 May 2007 07:29:39 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/03/06/design-schools-please-start-teaching-design-again/#comment-78105 [...] recently online about what design schools are teaching nowadays (I’m mainly talking about Adaptive Path’s call for designers who can actually make things, and Peter Hall’s claim that there should be [...] […] recently online about what design schools are teaching nowadays (I’m mainly talking about Adaptive Path’s call for designers who can actually make things, and Peter Hall’s claim that there should be […]

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