Comments on: How does iCal suck? Let me count the ways http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/ Adaptive Path Blog Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:34:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: pmoshay http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-178941 pmoshay Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:27:33 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-178941 The amazing thing is the given Apple's small biz orientation that they don't think it's imp't to come up with a solution that's closer (even a bit) to something like NowContact/UTD. If Steve Job's were to do a survey on how people actually USE 'address book', they probably learn that NO ONE is using how they intended. Basically it's a repository of email addresses one needs in A.B. to readily use AppleMail. Address Book should be a flat field dbase... not this non sense about varying numbers of fields & with varying values assigned to those fields throughout the dbase. Powerful but makes no sense to the avg user, even me. iCal is great if you ONLY have Appt's and no more than 20 To-Do items. Whose reality is that these days? The amazing thing is the given Apple’s small biz orientation that they don’t think it’s imp’t to come up with a solution that’s closer (even a bit) to something like NowContact/UTD. If Steve Job’s were to do a survey on how people actually USE ‘address book’, they probably learn that NO ONE is using how they intended. Basically it’s a repository of email addresses one needs in A.B. to readily use AppleMail. Address Book should be a flat field dbase… not this non sense about varying numbers of fields & with varying values assigned to those fields throughout the dbase. Powerful but makes no sense to the avg user, even me. iCal is great if you ONLY have Appt’s and no more than 20 To-Do items. Whose reality is that these days?

]]> By: Al http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-176423 Al Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:10:37 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-176423 I think it's hilarious that I also came here after search for 'ical sucks' because, it does indeed suck the big one. Why don't appointments that go on for several days show up across those days like in Outlook? Arggh. I think it’s hilarious that I also came here after search for ‘ical sucks’ because, it does indeed suck the big one. Why don’t appointments that go on for several days show up across those days like in Outlook? Arggh.

]]> By: Jeanne http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-169728 Jeanne Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:36:06 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-169728 I have had a demo xserve for a week now, all for the purposes of testing iCalendar for our corporate users, and I still can't authenticate using AD domain accounts. Feeling like I wanted to take a sledge-hammer to it, I instead did a childish "icalendar sucks" google search, just for some sympathy. I'm all about Open Source, but I believed all the hype about Leopard's iCalendar implementation and "easy integration." I thought this would be a great compromise with executives who are ready to go with Exchange. This has to be one of the most disappointing and frustrating experiences I've had in 7 years of systems administration. I have had a demo xserve for a week now, all for the purposes of testing iCalendar for our corporate users, and I still can’t authenticate using AD domain accounts. Feeling like I wanted to take a sledge-hammer to it, I instead did a childish “icalendar sucks” google search, just for some sympathy. I’m all about Open Source, but I believed all the hype about Leopard’s iCalendar implementation and “easy integration.” I thought this would be a great compromise with executives who are ready to go with Exchange. This has to be one of the most disappointing and frustrating experiences I’ve had in 7 years of systems administration.

]]> By: Earl http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-167611 Earl Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:07:09 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-167611 John Maisey's donationware "iCal Reply Checker" utility works very nicely as well; see his website at http://www.nhoj.co.uk/ . He is also the author of an excellent utility, YAI ("You are Invited"), that translates Outlook invitation emails received by Mail.app into iCal invitations. John Maisey’s donationware “iCal Reply Checker” utility works very nicely as well; see his website at http://www.nhoj.co.uk/ . He is also the author of an excellent utility, YAI (”You are Invited”), that translates Outlook invitation emails received by Mail.app into iCal invitations.

]]> By: Earl http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-129030 Earl Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:54:50 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-129030 Re: "-When you accept an invitation, you HAVE to click “Reply” vs. just adding it to your calendar" Not rocket science, but I just figured out a way to defeat iCal's insistence that you send an email reply to an invitee when accepting/rejecting an invitation: take the Mac offline before clicking Reply (unplug it, turn off Airport, whatever). Then your acceptance/rejection email can't be sent automatically, and will instead be sitting in your Outbox where it can be deleted. Re: “-When you accept an invitation, you HAVE to click “Reply” vs. just adding it to your calendar”

Not rocket science, but I just figured out a way to defeat iCal’s insistence that you send an email reply to an invitee when accepting/rejecting an invitation: take the Mac offline before clicking Reply (unplug it, turn off Airport, whatever). Then your acceptance/rejection email can’t be sent automatically, and will instead be sitting in your Outbox where it can be deleted.

]]> By: chris http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-123958 chris Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:20:24 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-123958 I am one of the most loyal Mac users that I know. Indeed, I am a true fanatic, but I have to wholeheartedly agree...iCal blows! You know what else totally sucks? The fact that I hate ical so much, that I was driven to google"ical sucks", just so I can commiserate. Please Apple... give us a new calendaring app! I am one of the most loyal Mac users that I know. Indeed, I am a true fanatic, but I have to wholeheartedly agree…iCal blows!

You know what else totally sucks? The fact that I hate ical so much, that I was driven to google”ical sucks”, just so I can commiserate.

Please Apple… give us a new calendaring app!

]]> By: xian http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-69763 xian Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:23:38 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-69763 and plus, the task manager is teh suck. Tasks tied to days vanish into the past whether they are done or not! Outlook's task tool is leap years better. and plus, the task manager is teh suck. Tasks tied to days vanish into the past whether they are done or not! Outlook’s task tool is leap years better.

]]> By: adaptive path » blog » blog archive » New Job, New Behaviors http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-64742 adaptive path » blog » blog archive » New Job, New Behaviors Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:58:50 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-64742 [...] Managing personal and work schedules - At my previous job we used Entourage’s shared project calendar for work and I used my Sidekick II and iCal for personal appointments - an imperfect system to say the least. Adaptive Path uses iCal pretty heavily, so now I can have my personal calendar at home and work. However, I’ve had to break out my personal calendar into 2 - the office needs to know when I’m traveling or at the dentist, but doesn’t need to know when I’m attending a baby shower or going camping with friends. And, as Brandon’s mentioned, iCal has its points of frustration too. [...] [...] Managing personal and work schedules - At my previous job we used Entourage’s shared project calendar for work and I used my Sidekick II and iCal for personal appointments - an imperfect system to say the least. Adaptive Path uses iCal pretty heavily, so now I can have my personal calendar at home and work. However, I’ve had to break out my personal calendar into 2 - the office needs to know when I’m traveling or at the dentist, but doesn’t need to know when I’m attending a baby shower or going camping with friends. And, as Brandon’s mentioned, iCal has its points of frustration too. [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-02-20 (Leapfroglog) http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-48314 links for 2007-02-20 (Leapfroglog) Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:19:15 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-48314 [...] adaptive path » blog » blog archive » How does iCal suck? Let me count the ways Brandon Schauer thinks iCal sucks and I must agree (although I do think his Mac might be a bit underpowered; but on the other hand: since when do we need processing power for calendaring?) (tags: calendars software tools criticism mac apple osx) [...] [...] adaptive path » blog » blog archive » How does iCal suck? Let me count the ways Brandon Schauer thinks iCal sucks and I must agree (although I do think his Mac might be a bit underpowered; but on the other hand: since when do we need processing power for calendaring?) (tags: calendars software tools criticism mac apple osx) [...]

]]> By: Mike Harper http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-48289 Mike Harper Tue, 20 Feb 2007 05:02:25 +0000 http://www.adaptivepath.com/blog/2007/02/16/how-does-ical-suck-let-me-count-the-ways/#comment-48289 As Andrew said, iCal didn't originate the icalendar format -- it's existed longer than Google Calendar or Thunderbird as well. If you go back to the actual RFC (2445) you'll see that it was a joint effort of several parties, including representatives from Lotus and Microsoft and dates back to 1998. I remember writing some code to generate appointment files for Outlook before iCal existed -- iCal will read them perfectly well, though. iCal has really made calendar feeds popular, but that's more of an issue of it being seen as a format for public interchange than an actual relation to the format. As Andrew said, iCal didn’t originate the icalendar format — it’s existed longer than Google Calendar or Thunderbird as well. If you go back to the actual RFC (2445) you’ll see that it was a joint effort of several parties, including representatives from Lotus and Microsoft and dates back to 1998. I remember writing some code to generate appointment files for Outlook before iCal existed — iCal will read them perfectly well, though. iCal has really made calendar feeds popular, but that’s more of an issue of it being seen as a format for public interchange than an actual relation to the format.

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